Animators should go on strike!

[Elijah Abrams]

When the current WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes end, The Animation Guild and the animators should go on strike next. They’ve been complaining of their shows getting scrapped/removed from streaming for tax purposes, and none are getting greenlit right now!

 

[Fone Bone]

I agree with you.

 

[harry580]

yeah, giving all the things that happened to the animation industry (Disney closing blue sky studios, Netflix animation cancelling almost all of their animated movies & shows, Warner bros discovery cartoons tax write offs, Disney animated films bombing in 2022 & show on), I think a strike could happen

 

[TheMisterManGuy]

If I'm being honest. I want these strikes to continue for as long as possible. Mostly because the visual entertainment industry has for years been monopolized by giant media conglomerates and bloated unions. It's really time that more options for independent creators become viable.

 

[Moe]

yeah, giving all the things that happened to the animation industry (Disney closing blue sky studios, Netflix animation cancelling almost all of their animated movies & shows, Warner bros discovery cartoons tax write offs, Disney animated films bombing in 2022 & show on), I think a strike could happen

Like all other unions, studio unions are focused on wage, health insurance, retirement, bonus and residual. They don't have control with networks and projects that studios make decision with network and greenlight the projects. The union don't make Disney to reopen Blue Sky Studios, make Netflix to un-cancel all of animation projects or make WBD to cancel the tax write-off for contents and pay money with interest back to IRS.

Corporate studios have very deep pockets and they are capable to greenlight the multiple projects that isn't possible if it was independent studios, unless they grow to make a big.

Studios and unions are going to resolve the dispute eventually to end the strike but won't be in studio or union favors like they did with 1988 strike and 2007-2008 strike.

 

[JMTV]

Yeah, I'm all for it!

 

[SuperSuck64]

They should but they can't since two unions can't strike at the same time, and at this point it's become abundantly clear that studios will stubbornly hold on to the bitter end rather than pay a single cent to any of their workers.

Hollywood is crashing and burning spectacularly yet they refuse to compromise for even one second. The strike is never going to end because CEOs would rather die than treat their creatives with even a single iota of respect.

 

[PinkieLopBun]

They should but they can't since two unions can't strike at the same time

WGA and SAG-AFTRA are two separate unions on strike right now.

 

[SuperSuck64]

WGA and SAG-AFTRA are two separate unions on strike right now.

And yet nothing's changed.

 

[Light Lucario]

And yet nothing's changed.

The point is that two different unions can go on strike at the same time. That is part of your claim from your earlier post and that isn't true.

 

[PinkieLopBun]

And yet nothing's changed.

Didn’t say anything did. Just that the idea that two unions can’t strike at the same time is wrong.

 

[CNNickFan]

Animators COULD go on strike, but is that really a good idea?

These networks/streaming services are pushing animated shows to the side like they aren't a driving force in viewer base, and I really don't think a strike will fix that. Especially since CEOs now act like paying people livable wages is like summoning the devil.

It's sad, yes, but I don't think striking will give corporations like WBD the message. My two cents.

 

[Petran Markou]

Problem is that they outsource the animation abroad in countries with different labour laws.

 

[Moe]

Animators COULD go on strike, but is that really a good idea?

These networks/streaming services are pushing animated shows to the side like they aren't a driving force in viewer base, and I really don't think a strike will fix that. Especially since CEOs now act like paying people livable wages is like summoning the devil.

It's sad, yes, but I don't think striking will give corporations like WBD the message. My two cents.

You are right, the unions' scopes are pay, benefits (health insurance, pension) and residual.

Outside of scope, the unions have no control with studios and networks, especially schedule, projects and contents. It means unions can't force Nexstar to reverse all changes with The CW nor reopen the Blue Sky Studios.

Tax write-off is very unethical but not illegal. IRS would need to change the rule to remove the write-off for media contents. If IRS lacked the authority, The Congress would have to act and it is unlikely that is going to happen.

Problem is that they outsource the animation abroad in countries with different labour laws.

Yes, studios use those for decades, especially Tom and Jerry were outsourced to European countries in 1960s.

Some studios did outsource during writer strike in 1988.

 

[PinkieLopBun]

Problem is that they outsource the animation abroad in countries with different labour laws.

Animators is sometimes (such as this time) used as a broad term that doesn't necessarily just refer to the people doing the actual animation. It's also used to refer to other artists involved in the production.

 

[CNNickFan]

Animation has pretty much always been outsourced for the most part

 

[Classic Speedy]

Animation has pretty much always been outsourced for the most part

Not during the theatrical animation days or early Hanna Barbera.

 

[Daikun]

CN/WB is victorious.

 

[aegisrawks]

I know if this is the thread to say this but its sorta related: I wish cartoon creators told Nickelodeon and CN "We are not doing this song and dance again, we know you will kill our cartoons immediately so we are done talking to you"

 

[TsWade2]

I don't know if I want animation going on strike, because it might cancel some of the series and movies like Tiana. If animation goes on strike, then this time, please be shorter than the actors and writers strike. Or if Bob Iger and other business people are so smart (Which I doubt with David Zaslav), they need to learn what they've done with the actors and writers and make a quick fair deal with animators in the right way before this apocalyptic strike happens again!