"Marvel Cinematic Universe" News & Discussion, Part 6 (Spoilers)

[RoyalRubble]

This thread is dedicated to movies and television series that have been mentioned to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe but not yet officially announced. Once announced, it will be spun off into its own thread. Note: This thread does not cover Fox or Sony properties, for links see 6B.

Index
1. Movies
I. Phase One
II. Phase Two
III. Phase Three
IV. Phase Four
V. Phase Five
VI. Considered

2. Television
I. Active Production
II. In Development/Not Greenlit/Shelved
III. Rumored
IV. Not Greenlit
V. Possible/Considered

3. Marvel One-Shots

4. Netflix

5. Hulu

6. Disney Streaming Service

7. Comics

8. Non-MCU
A. Television
B. Movies
I. Columbia Pictures/Sony
II. 20th Century Fox

1. Movies
News Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5,
I. Phase One Talkback Threads
Phase One: Avengers Assembled

Iron Man
Theatrical Release Date: May 2, 2008
Home Entertainment Release Date: September 30, 2008

The Incredible Hulk
Theatrical Release Date: June 13, 2008
Home Entertainment Release Date: October 21, 2008

Iron Man 2
Theatrical Release Date: May 7, 2010
Home Entertainment Release Date: September 28, 2010

Thor
Theatrical Release Date: May 6, 2011
Home Entertainment Release Date: September 13, 2011

Captain America:The First Avenger
News & Discussion Part 1, Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: July 22, 2011
Home Entertainment Release Date: October 25, 2011

Marvel's The Avengers
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: May 4, 2012
Home Entertainment Release Date: September 25, 2012

II. Phase Two Talkback Threads

Iron Man 3
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: May 3, 2013
Home Entertainment Release Date: September 24, 2013

Thor: The Dark World
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: November 8, 2013
Home Entertainment Release Date: February 25, 2014

Captain America: The Winter Soldier
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: April 4, 2014
Home Entertainment Release Date: September 9, 2014

Guardians of the Galaxy
News & Discussion Part 1
Theatrical Release Date: August 1st, 2014
Home Entertainment Release Date: December 9, 2014

Avengers: Age of Ultron
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
News & Discussion Part 3
Theatrical Release Date: May 1, 2015

Ant-Man
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: July 17, 2015

III. Phase Three
Source: Crave Online 4/12/12, CBM 11/2, THR 6/13/13, CS 6/24, IGN 10/28, Variety 1/29/14, THR 2/20, IGN 2/25, CBM 3/11, SlashFilm 3/13, BadAssDigest 3/13, ET 7/8, Marvel 7/18, Marvel 7/23, CBR 7/26, Marvel 10/28, Agent M 10/28, CBR 2/9/15, CBR 2/9, CBR 2/10, CBR 9/30, CBR 10/8,

Captain America: Civil War
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: May 6, 2016
Home Entertainment Release: September 2 and 13, 2016

Dr. Strange
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: November 4, 2016
Home Entertainment Release: February 28, 2017

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: May 5, 2017
Home Entertainment Release: August 8 and 22, 2017

Spider-Man: Homecoming
News & Discussion
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: July 7, 2017
Formerly: July 28, 2017
Home Entertainment Release: September 26 and October 17, 2017

Thor: Ragnarok
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: November 3, 2017
Formerly: July 28, 2017
Home Entertainment Release: February 20 and March 6, 2018

Black Panther
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: February 16, 2018
Formerly: November 3, 2017; July 6, 2018
Home Entertainment Release: May 8 and May 15, 2018

Avengers: Infinity War
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: April 27, 2018
Formerly: May 4, 2018
Home Entertainment Release: July 31, 2018 and August 14, 2018

Ant-Man and The Wasp
News & Discussion
Theatrical Release Date: July 6, 2018
Home Entertainment Release: October 2, 2018 and October 16, 2018

Captain Marvel
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: March 8, 2019
Formerly: July 6, 2018; November 2, 2018
Home Entertainment Release: May 28, 2019 and June 11, 2019

Avengers: Endgame
News & Discussion Part 1
News & Discussion Part 2
Theatrical Release Date: April 26, 2019
Theatrical Re-Release Date: June 28, 2019
Formerly: May 3, 2019
Home Entertainment Release: July 30, 2019 and August 13, 2019

Spider-Man: Far From Home
News & Discussion Part 1
Theatrical Release Date: July 2, 2019
Formerly: July 5, 2019
Home Entertainment Release: September 17, 2019 and October 1, 2019

IV. Phase Four

Unassigned Slots: May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, August 7, 2020, July 31, 2020, November 6, 2020; February 12, 2021; May 7, 2021; July 30, 2021, November 5, 2021

Black Widow
Theatrical Release Date: May 1, 2020 November 6 2020

Eternals
Theatrical Release Date: November 6, 2020 February 12, 2021

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Theatrical Release Date: February 12, 2021 May 7, 2021

Doctor Strange: In the Multiverse of Madness
Theatrical Release Date: May 7, 2021 November 5, 2021 March 25, 2022

Spider-Man "3"
Theatrical Release Date: July 16, 2021 November 5, 2021

Thor: Love and Thunder
Theatrical Release Date: November 5, 2021 February 18, 2022 February 11, 2022

V. Phase Five
February 18, 2022; May 6, 2022; July 29, 2022; October 7, 2022; February 17, 2023; May 5, 2023; July 28, 2023; November 3, 2023; May 3, 2024; May 10, 2024

Black Panther 2
Theatrical Release Date: May 6, 2022

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Theatrical Release Date:

Ant-Man 3
Theatrical Release Date:

Captain Marvel 2
Theatrical Release Date: July 8, 2022

Blade
Theatrical Release Date:

Fantastic Four
Theatrical Release Date:

X-Men
Theatrical Release Date:

VI. Considered

Ka-Zar

Luke Cage

Cable

Iron Fist

Nighthawk

Vision

Dazzler

Power Pack

S.H.I.E.L.D.

Punisher

Hawkeye
Source: CBM 5/16/16,

War Machine

Nick Fury

The Incredible Hulk Sequel
Source: 5/1/12, 5/1/14,

Inhumans
Theatrical Release Date: To Be Determined
Formerly: November 2, 2018; July 12, 2019

Red Hulk

Ravagers

All-Female Team

Nova

Moon Knight

Ms. Marvel

Young Avengers

Ironheart

Captain Britain

Black Knight

Howard the Duck

Dark Avengers

Ultimates

Silver Surfer

Ghost Rider

Secret Warriors

2. Television
Sources: Collider 3/20/12, Collider 7/23/11, io9 7/23/11, Collider 10/14/10, CBR 1/10/13,

-Active Production
ABC

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
News Part 1, Part 2, Part 3,
Season 1
Premiere: September 24 to December 10, 2013; January 7 to 14, February 4, March 4 to 11, April 1 to May 13, 2014
Home Entertainment Release: September 9, 2014
Season 2
Premiere: September 23 to December 9, 2014; March 3 to May 12, 2015
Home Entertainment Release: September 29, 2015
Season 3
Premiere: September 29 to December 8, 2015; March 8 to May 17, 2016
Home Entertainment Release: January 30, 2017 (U.K.)
Season 4
Premiere: September 20 to December 6, 2016, January 10 to February 21, 2017; April 4 to May 16, 2017
Home Entertainment Release: July 2, 2018 (U.K.)
Season 5
Premiere: December 1 to December 22, 2017; January 5 to February 2, 2018; March 2, 2018 to May 18, 2018
Home Entertainment Release: October 1, 2018 (U.K.)
Season 6
Premiere: May 10, 2019
Season 7
Premiere: May 27, 2020

ABC.com

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Slingshot
Premiere: December 13, 2016

Freeform

Cloak and Dagger
Season One Talkback
Premiere: June 7, 2018 to August 2, 2018

Season Two Talkback
Premiere: April 4, 2019 to May 30, 2019

To Be Announced

New Warriors
Premiere:

-Rumored

John Ridley project
Sources: CBR 4/17, AV Club 8/5, CBM 1/10/16, CB 1/10/17, CB 1/10/17, CBR 4/6, CBM 7/28,

Ms. Marvel
Sources: CBR 4/17/15, CBM 4/19/15, CBM 7/28,

2nd Comedy
Sources: CBR 1/11/16,

Captain Britain
To Be Pitched in 2017
Sources: CBM 3/22, McAvoy 3/23, TVLine 3/23, CBR 3/24, McAvoy 5/1, McAvoy 5/1,

'Jessica Jones-Esque' Show
Source: CBR 8/24/17,

All-Female Hero Team
Source: DL 9/19/18,

-Canceled

Agent Carter

Season 1 Talkback
Home Entertainment Release: September 18, 2015 and December 5, 2016 (U.K.)

Season 2 Talkback

Home

Marvel's The Inhumans
Season 1
Premiere: September 1, 2017, September 29, 2017

-Not Greenlit

ABC Family

Mockingbird
Premise: The life of Bobby Morse, a freshman at a prestigious university in Silicon Valley, who is a science major and is recruited by S.H.I.E.L.D. and forced to become a student by day and a super-spy by night.

ABC

The Punisher
Premise: One man waging his own war on crime. Frank Castle, a rising star detective with the New York Police Department who moonlights as the vigilante Punisher, seeking justice for those the system has failed.
Executive Producer: Ed Bernero
Source: Spinoff 10/20/11, Spinoff 5/16/12

Marvel's Most Wanted

Damage Control

-Possible/Considered

Heroes for Hire
Premise: Ex-con Luke Cage offering to take on bad guys for a price

The Eternals
Premise: A race of superpowered beings live amid humanity in secret, inspiring legends

Agents of Atlas
Premise: A superhero team comprised of Gorilla-Man, Jimmy Woo, M-11, The Uranian, Namora, and Venus

The Hood
Premise: A low-rent criminal discovers a cloak that gives him superpowers

Ka-Zar
Premise: A Tarzan-type and his saber-toothed tiger must journey to the concrete jungle to seek justice

Daughters of the Dragon
Premise: A dynamic female duo, one with a bionic arm and the other a granddaughter of a samurai, open a private-detective agency

3. Marvel One-Shots
News & Discussion

4. Netflix
News & Discussion
News & Discussion Part 2
News & Discussion Part 3
News & Discussion Part 4

Daredevil Season 1
Premiere: April 10, 2015
Home Entertainment Release: October 3, 2016 (U.K.), November 8, 2016 (U.S.)

Jessica Jones Season 1
Premiere: November 20, 2015
Home Entertainment Release: December 5, 2016 (U.K.), August 22, 2017 (U.S.)

Daredevil Season 2
Premiere: March 18, 2016
Home Entertainment Release: May 15, 2017 (U.K.), August 22, 2017 (U.S.)

Luke Cage Season 1
Premiere: September 30, 2016
Home Entertainment Release: November 27, 2017 (U.K.), December 12, 2017 (U.S.)

Iron Fist Season 1
Premiere: March 17, 2017
Home Entertainment Release: June 4, 2018 (U.K.),

The Defenders Season 1
Premiere: August 8, 2017

The Punisher Season 1
Premiere: November 17, 2017

Jessica Jones Season 2
Premiere: March 8, 2018

Luke Cage Season 2
Premiere: June 22, 2018

Iron Fist Season 2
Premiere: September 7, 2018

Daredevil Season 3
Premiere: October 19, 2018

The Punisher Season 2
Premiere: January 18, 2019

Jessica Jones Season 3
Premiere: June 14, 2019

5. Hulu
News & Discussion

Runaways News & Discussion

Runaways Season 1
Premiere: November 21, 2017

Runaways Season 2
Premiere: December 21, 2018

Runaways Season 3
Premiere: December 13, 2019

Ghost Rider Season 1 [SHELVED]
Premiere: 2020

Helstrom Season 1
Premiere: 2020

6. Disney+ Streaming Service
News & Discussion, Part 2,

The Falcon & The Winter Soldier
Premiere: August xx, 2020

WandaVision
Premiere: December xx, 2020

Loki
Premiere: Spring 2021

What If?
Premiere: Summer 2021

Hawkeye
Premiere: Fall 2021

Ms. Marvel

Moon Knight

She-Hulk

7. Comics

Marvel Cinematic Universe Comics News and Discussion

8. Non-MCU Marvel Properties

A. Television

-Not Greenlit
ABC

The Hulk
Executive Producers: Guillermo del Toro and David Eick
Premise: The original story with Bruce Banner being in his mid-20's, focusing on the love story between Banner and Ross and how they are brought together and continually torn apart by the monster inside of him.
When: A possibility for the 2013-2014 season
Sources: Deadline 11/15/10, CBR 5/15/12, CBM 7/19/12, CBM 1/8/13.

B. Movies

I. Columbia Pictures/Sony

The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Talkback Thread
Release Date: May 2, 2014

The Amazing Spider-Man 3 (CANCELLED)
June 10, 2016

The Amazing Spider-Man Spin Off Movies
May 4, 2018

Venom
October 5, 2018

Sinister Six

Silver and Black
February 8, 2019

Kraven the Hunter (CANON TBD)

Mysterio (CANON TBD)

II. 20th Century Fox
See X-Universe Thread

Conversation continued from the previous installment of this thread!

 

[Frontier]

So if that's the full Phase 4 slate, then I guess we won't see X-Men or FF until Phase 5, along with the other sequels .

Wonder where Spider-Man fits into it...

 

[reflection01]

I’m guessing 2022 during the slate of sequels that weren’t announced yesterday.


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[Neo Ultra Mike]

Though I am surprised Phase 4 is so short (maybe due to the fact it's working with shows now thus they want to technically cover less years with these phases even if it's still honestly a lot more content) I'm pretty sure Phase 5's first year of 2022 will host Black Panther 2 (In February) Guardians of The Galaxy Volume 3 (In May) and then Blade in July 29, 2022. I mean why announce they have the major role cast if it wasn't coming up pretty soon in the pipeline? I mean they announced Brie Larson as Carol Danvers 3 years before Captain Marvel so I imagine it's a similar thing here, especially since Feige has said ever since Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014, every year he wants to do at least one movie that's a sequel to an existing series and at least one movie that's the start of a franchise. So it wouldn't just be three sequels in a row. And yeah that likely pushes Spider Man and Captain Marvel sequels to 2023 but that's the thing when you are juggling so many other different series and can't just focus on one.

 

[Yojimbo]

When the Avengers return, it will be a different lineup. Some we met, some we haven't. Phase 4 will plant the seeds for it.

Thor: Love and Thunder will mark the end of Phase 4, fascinating!

What Marvel does with the X-Men will be "quite different."

So if that's the full Phase 4 slate, then I guess we won't see X-Men or FF until Phase 5, along with the other sequels .

Wonder where Spider-Man fits into it...

There is still an unassigned 2021 slot for July still, unless Marvel decided to dump it.

 

[Frontier]

When the Avengers return, it will be a different lineup. Some we met, some we haven't. Phase 4 will plant the seeds for it.

I think it's pretty likely who we've met who will be on it (AKA those tentpoles who currently have running franchises), and probably reasonable to assume some new heroes might pop in as well .

Thor: Love and Thunder will mark the end of Phase 4, fascinating!

I wonder if it'll be more of an Ant-Man Phase ender or surprise us .

What Marvel does with the X-Men will be "quite different."

That's reasonable to assume to differentiate from the Fox movies. I just hope they still feel like the X-Men .

 

[reflection01]

Quite different could easily mean starting from scratch with Xavier and mutant teens named Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Iceman, and Jean Grey.


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[Neo Ultra Mike]

There is still an unassigned 2021 slot for July still, unless Marvel decided to dump it.

That time is actually pretty crowded as you've not only got the Batman in late June and The Suicide Squad in early August that year, but also Sing 2 (well unless Secret Life of Pets 2 showed Illumination's formula has FINALLY run out), Mission Impossible 7, the long awaited sequel to Space Jam and Indiana Jones 5. So it's possible we may not see anything there. Thinking about it though not only would that be more up to Sony (who even if you believe that still unproven rumor about Spider Man Far From Home needing to make over a billion to still be under the MCU Umbrella, it's already at 970 million world wide. It's going to clear a billion by next week) but they don't seem like the type unlike Marvel to want to wait around to make sequels to their biggest brand especially since again this is a series dealing with young actors so they may ask to muscle in a slot next... next July guess we'll find out soon enough.

Quite different could easily mean starting from scratch with Xavier and mutant teens named Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Iceman, and Jean Grey.

As cool as it would be to get the original X-Men team (who were last together on screen in... X-Men: The Last Stand if people want to count that) with the multitude of mutant characters I imagine Feige and co would want to go with ones that really haven't had any focus in the films at all. I mean yeah Deadpool will still be a thing but besides that I'd imagine we would go with more unique X-Men before diving more into a team everyone is more familiar with. As stuff like Guardians and now Eternals prove Marvel will push characters even if they are obscure to viewers if they feel they have a story to tell with them or want to do something different.

 

[RoyalRubble]

More info regarding D23 was revealed.

The Walt Disney Studios Hall D23 Presentation
Saturday, August 24, 10 a.m. – noon, Hall D23
The Walt Disney Studios will present a behind-the-scenes look at its blockbuster collection of upcoming films, including a peek at exciting projects from Marvel Studios. As always, attendees will be treated to exclusive footage, special guest appearances, and more!

 

[the greenman]

I feel like back when they had planned "Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes" they talked about the structure of seasons (though they didn't get to the planned Supernatural season 3). So now we're in full Cosmic mode & soon we'll be in Supernatural mode.

Also, anybody else surprised we got no Nova announcement?
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[Frontier]

More info regarding D23 was revealed.

Well, hopefully they know people are expecting more then just regurgitating what was announced at SDCC .

 

[Yojimbo]

Reportedly, creative control over the X-Men characters has been given to Feige.

 

[Frontier]

Reportedly, creative control over the X-Men characters has been given to Feige.

Well, he pretty much has creative control over all Marvel properties, aside from I guess Namor and whatever Spider-Man characters Sony doesn't give them...

 

[Yojimbo]

Well, he pretty much has creative control over all Marvel properties, aside from I guess Namor and whatever Spider-Man characters Sony doesn't give them...

He has Namor, too, I thought. They're just thinking of how to introduce him last I read.

 

[Frontier]

He has Namor, too, I thought. They're just thinking of how to introduce him last I read.

Last I read the Namor rights were still murky, but you could be right .

Kinda surprised the full Hulk rights haven't reverted by this point...

 

[the greenman]

Well, he pretty much has creative control over all Marvel properties, aside from I guess Namor and whatever Spider-Man characters Sony doesn't give them...

Sony really doesn't even have that much pull over the characters. I don't think they own Spider Woman (Jessica Drew) at all.

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[Yojimbo]

Last I read the Namor rights were still murky, but you could be right .

Ok, I think the most recent comments were in April and October 2018. Feige, in April, agreed was complicated, "It is. I think there’s a way to probably figure it out but it does have — it's not as a clean or clear as the majority of the other characters." Then in October, his tune changed a little confirming Namor could appear in a movie then saying, 'still deciding IF & when.' Then this year, some rumors were fueled at separate times by Scott Derrickson and Dwayne Johnson but just rumors right now.

Kinda surprised the full Hulk rights haven't reverted by this point...

It might have been a perpetuity deal. I'm hoping that's the next goal of Disney/Marvel Studio in the wake of the Fox merger. Universal is basically refusing to give up the licensing rights to distribute Hulk movies out of spite because Marvel is clearly using Hulk in starring roles like in Thor: Ragnarok and the latest two Avengers movies without Universal making any revenue from the old deal. Obviously they're a business and want to make money so leaving the rights to collect dust won't fly for long. I could see them making a deal with Marvel that gives them either a flat fee for the distribution rights, or a deal that pays them a smaller amount of money up front and supplies them with a small portion of revenue from any solo Hulk movies that Disney releases. But Disney seems like it's in a way better position to negotiate to get the licensing rights back. I would think it's in Universal's best interest and best financial outcome to sell the rights back rather than renegotiate the deal, as soon as possible. There may be no plans for more solo Hulk movies but Disney is a stickler for having full rights to a character in their ledger.

 

[brodie999]

Quite different could easily mean starting from scratch with Xavier and mutant teens named Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Iceman, and Jean Grey.


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Hopefully, with a lot of X-Men villains from the comics already being used in the Fox movies, Omega Red, Sauron and Mister Sinister would actually be great candidates for the first MCU X-Men film before focusing on setting up Magneto, the Brotherhood of Mutants, Apocalypse and the Sentinels.

Annihilus is already rumoured to be the main antagonist in the MCU Fantastic Four reboot which reports the team will get their powers in the 60s the same time Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne started their careers as Ant-Man and the Wasp. There's also rumours it might be set within that period.

 

[the greenman]

Seems like we'd been hearing about Annihilus for awhile now. Basically, Fan4stic 2015 had the storyline of them getting powers there. I love the Hank Pym connection very much. I know a podcast suggested Jennifer Lawrence as Sue. Even though i do like the idea of husband & wife team John Krasinski & Emily Blunt.

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[Frontier]

Seems like we'd been hearing about Annihilus for awhile now. Basically, Fan4stic 2015 had the storyline of them getting powers there. I love the Hank Pym connection very much. I know a podcast suggested Jennifer Lawrence as Sue. Even though i do like the idea of husband & wife team John Krasinski & Emily Blunt.

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I don't see Lawrence doing a big-budget Superhero movie again.