Least Favorite / Likable / Notweworthy Female Character(s) in animation...

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We've already asked who our favorite or most cutest female cartoon character(s) is/are. However, I feel this would be a good opportunity to express who doesn't fit this and why - or better yet, why they are so unpopular or easily bashed as such characters (this isn't about looks, that's just shallow) - I'm referring to:

1) being all-around bad/negatives influences not worth looking up to on the overall audience.

2) lack of likability or depth/development required to make them likable.

3) just plain being a drag on their shows for having nothing of note about them.

4) being a key factor in why said show is easily unpopular of hate-worthy.

The same could be applied to male characters in general, but for every good female character out there, female characters seem to have it worse, especially in Western animation...

Please don't just go making lists - I encourage explanations on why these characters failed to be likable or noteworthy to you, not just saying "I hate them for this and such...". This may come off like a negative subject matter, but I feel this is a good opportunity to vent said hatred and frustration in a calm, educated, and intelligible manner, if only to remind ourselves of how to design and make more likable/noteworthy characters than any examples on display here.

Thank You - and have a nice day.
 

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Here's my least favorite unlikable female characters that I truely disliked,

Pearl(The Flintstones) - Such an annoying abusive jerkette/witch mother-in-law always attacking poor Fred as much as I root for Fred to kick her butt.

D.W. Read(Arthur) - A horrible annoying obnoxious selfish bossy controlling brat/jerkette always causing problems for poor Arthur as much as I get sick of her character, her bashings were so satisfying like Arthur kicking her butt like saying on wanting to sell her and punching her in the shoulder, go Arthur, and Tommy/Timmy bullying her along with the swing scratching her was satisfying as well, I so love Tommy/Timmy the Tibble Twin Brats.

Sarah(Ed, Edd n Eddy) - An annoying horrible unlikable bratty jerkette sister always causing trouble for poor Ed, Edd/Double D, and Eddy, ugh.

Penelope(Atomic Betty) - An annoying unlikable/unbearable bully girl/jerkette antagonist always annoying/insulting poor Betty(Atomic Betty), but her just desserts was always well-deserved/sweet.

Candace Flynn/Amanda Flynn(Phineas and Ferb) - Annoying insufferable irritating bratty jerkette sister antagonists that need a good beating, at least 2nd Dimension Candace is more better which she was awesome.

Teena Sometimes(Kick Buttowski: Suburban Daredevil) - A horrible cruel spoiled selfish bratty celebrity jerkette who's really awful in And... Action as much as I want Scarlett to beat her up.

Edith(Bob's Burgers) - A terrible lousy unpleasant grouchy old wench terrorizing poor Bob as much as Art Crawl was a worst episode for me, but Bob kicking her butt was so satisfying though.

Mona/Judy Jo(Littlest Pet Shop 2012 series) - Worst annoying dreadful sucky adult villainesses/jerkettes ever for their horrible abusive actions for poor Blythe and poor Philippa, Mona's just desserts in Some Assistance Required was satisfying and I'm happy Philippa is the new great female owner for Princess Stori, yaaaaaay.

Iris/Emolga/Nastina(Pokemon) - Both Iris/Emolga were such annoying unlikable irredeemable selfish jerkettes/brats always causing trouble for poor Ash/Cilan especially Iris's extremely annoying hypocrite nature, ugh, but their bashings were so satisfying throughout the show along with rooting for Jessie, James, and Meowth to attack Iris/Emolga as well.Nastina was a terrible unlikable minor villainess/wench who so annoyed me, but Tentacruel blasting her off was satisfying.

Talho/Maeter/The Ageha Squad(Eureka 7) - Both Talho/Maeter were such annoying unpleasant abusive jerky female characters attacking poor Renton, I'm glad Eureka smacked Maeter as much as the little blonde girl brat deserved it, Talho may be more nicer in the second half, but I still despise her.The Ageha Squad were such horrible heartless brats/jerkettes that are piles of scum for poor Anemone, they needed a well-deserved death as much as Eureka 7 was my least favorite giant mech anime because of them.

Aquarius(Fairy Tail) - A terrible annoying grouchy/stingy selfish jerkette/witch mermaid Celestial Spirit always causing trouble for poor Lucy everytime Lucy summons her, ugh, at least the other Celestial Spirits like Loke, Aries, Capricorn, Cancer, Virgo, Taurus, and Gemini for example were more better than Aquarius which they're awesome, likable, funny, loyal, and supporting always helping Lucy out in many battles.I so wish Lucy kicks her off the Celestial Spirits team already .
 
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Teena Sometimes(Kick Buttowski: Suburban Daredevil) - A horrible cruel spoiled selfish bratty celebrity jerkette who's really awful especially torturing poor Scarlett as much as I want Scarlett to beat her up.
How did Teena Sometimes torture Scarlett? the two never really interacted with each other.
 

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Bonnie Rockwaller from Kim Possible: I came across this image on KnowYourmeme recently, comparing Bonnie with Pacifica from Gravity Falls. Yeah back in Season 1 this might've been true, but I've been watching Kim Possible again recently and there's just NOTHING redeemable about Bonnie. She has no development or redemption whatsoever. She's only there JUST to complain and make Kim and Ron miserable.
 

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Bonnie Rockwaller from Kim Possible: I came across this image on KnowYourmeme recently, comparing Bonnie with Pacifica from Gravity Falls. Yeah back in Season 1 this might've been true, but I've been watching Kim Possible again recently and there's just NOTHING redeemable about Bonnie. She has no development or redemption whatsoever. She's only there JUST to complain and make Kim and Ron miserable.

Bonnie only had one episode that had character development with her and the writers chickened out with her in the end.
 

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I admit I'm starting to grow tired of Wendy from South Park. She largely exists as a standard female straight man, but it's even more glaring since Stan is usually the voice of sanity in the show, meaning every time she appears he has to lose a few hundred IQ points just so she can look down on him or chew him out for being a moronic ass. Given how often the show mocks fictional cliches, it seems odd they play one straight in such a clunky fashion.

Other than that, she's essentially Kyle without the ego checks. Even her recent spotlight episode revolved around the fact she was technically in the right. She was at least humorous because of her shrillness originally, but the voice changes have made listening to her cattiness more dull.

I'm not big on Hayley from American Dad for similar reasons (self righteous brat that always has the story favour her, most boring member of the cast). She seemed like a character concept that might have been interesting on paper (a not so different liberal to contrast Stan), but fell flat because no matter how negatively they portray left wings, the writers will always consider them the lesser of two evils against right wings.
 

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There's:
1.Wackie Jackie from Kick Buttowski- This character deserves no sympathy which is something she often received in the show, her being creepy was just overdone and could only harm the show.
2. Tootie from the Fairly OddParents- She never progressed past screaming and being the girl that likes the main protagonist but the protagonist doesn't like her stereotype.
3. Mai from Avatar-She a very bland character with no personality.
4. Karai from TMNT 2012- Her being Splinter's daughter was so predictable and the way she was in being ruthless and then honorable and back and forth made her a hypocrite when she questioned Tiger Claw's methods.
 

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originally posted by ToonReel
I admit I'm starting to grow tired of Wendy from South Park. She largely exists as a standard female straight man, but it's even more glaring since Stan is usually the voice of sanity in the show, meaning every time she appears he has to lose a few hundred IQ points just so she can look down on him or chew him out for being a moronic ass. Given how often the show mocks fictional cliches, it seems odd they play one straight in such a clunky fashion.

To be fair, I think Wendy actually more predates Stan as the "straight man" of the show as she was technically one still back in the first season, before the characters personality had been more defined and Kyle and Stan were a bit more wacky/quirky then they honestly are now. I also don't really see Wendy as that since not only has she gone for long tracks of time not having any role in the show (I think she had... ONE line in all of season 10) but besides maybe some of the most recent episodes I can't think of any time where Wendy just chewed Stan out for acting stupid, and even then there was at least some sort of reasoning behind it. And honestly they do still dump on her a lot in the show whenever she tries making a point. Like how Cartman would just go "booo Wendy" in "Informative Murder Porn" or no one still caring about Women's basketball at the end of "Cock Magic". I think it balances it out more.

I'm not big on Hayley from American Dad for similar reasons (self righteous brat that always has the story favour her, most boring member of the cast).

Okay this one I have to disagree with you on if only because it's clear that that the show DOESN'T favor her, giving her sans Klaus the least amount of episodes, also reguarly dosen't even just have her pop up for no point or just to mock her. It's not nearly as blatant as Meg's abuse in Family Guy but it's clear the show considers her pretty worthless overall except in a few episodes and usually gives her the least amount to do and thinks that's a good thing.

Okay here is my list. I already included the Kankers from Ed Edd n Eddy on another list of "worst parts of good shows" so I'm going to exclude them and focus on other characters

Lu (Mike Lu, And Og) - I think in the history of Cartoon Network originals, there is no cartoon nearly as forgotten as Mike, Lu and Og. For those of you who watched Cartoon Network in the late 90's, it was the series about a girl named Mike who managed to get herself stuck on this island... or she had like some sort of exchange program with this island... or she was sent there for some reason... anyway some modern girl sent to this backward primitive island. Where she really only had two major "friends" who were the only other two kids on the island. The more quiet, gravely voiced inventor Og, and the incredibly bratty, obnoxious and just plain grating Lu. Who since she was the chief's daughter always saw herself as a princess and constantly tried reminding people of that "fact" to a majorly of the citizenry and was just a general irritant to those around her. The other townspeople, her so called friends, and her pet turtle Lancelot who had to put up the most with her dragging him around and babying him and screaming at him. And anytime he escaped winding up back in her clutches and... ugh, man it's weird how when I was thinking back about this series I really remembered how much I hated this character. I think beyond the attitude and the fact she rarely got any proper comeuppance (even when she deserved it like one time she ruined a project Mike had been working on for a long time for a really petty reason) was that this was one of the main characters of the show. Since yeah oddly enough thinking about it, as Og didn't talk that often, Mike and Lu were actually the stars of this series. Which is one of the few CN shows with a main female protagainist. Too bad the secondary one was such a constant pain that always had to be dealt with. I mean at least some of these other characters aren't the ones you'd see in every episode so you could take a break from them, but Lu wasn't. It also wasn't for any particular reason other then she was a pain because sometimes if a character has a goal, or a reason why they act that way it's more exusable. Like for example Heather from Total Drama Island (even before World Tour tried redeeming her some) was at least working towards something and was a play on the terrible mean "villain" characters from reality TV series who hatch such petty plots. Why is Lu so petty and annoying? Because... she just is. And that made any trip to this island one not worth taking... man did I really say that lame line? Okay I'm moving on

Tootie (The Fairly Oddparents) - ShadowBeast brings up how she hasn't really evolved at all. She was Timmy's psycho stalker who got pity points for being Vicky's sister when introduced and hasn't evolved past that... oh wait, there was one time she did. In the life action movies. Which say what you want about them, at least pointed out that Timmy would of never actually loved or liked the Tootie he knew as a kid. And not just in looks either but in actually being a decent person who had better things to do then obsess with him constantly 24/7. Which is something the show never actually did, and like many FOP jokes beat that one into the ground. What I think is really terrible about Tootie isn't just her being obnoxious though. It's the fact that we're suppose to feel bad with her and WANT to see her with Timmy. Because she loves him and is absued by other people even though she doesn't give him any reasons why she would actually be a good match for him. Because sorry psycho stalking doesn't make for a good relationship... at all. And you can't just use the excuse of "other people are mean to her so she can get away with doing things to him" when the show always punishes Timmy whenever he wishes payback on someone. It works both ways and you can't pretend just because one's a girl that's not the right thing. Seriously there wasn't any moment in the regular series where Timmy or someone took her aside and said "you know what you did/are doing is wrong" and Tootie actually tries being in a reasonable relationship with him. It's just "Timmy will never get anywhere for stalking Trixie Tang cause she doesn't like him that way but Tootie will because those two will wind up together." And unlike say Lu there are some actual decently funny moments from Tootie here and there (the whole Deep Toot thing from Channel Chasers, though mostly because of Mr. Turner laughing at it) but I'm not going to laugh at someone being a psycho stalker whose also suppose to be the object of pity. If the genders were reversed that wouldn't be funny, so why should it be funny the way it is?

Lois Griffin (Family Guy) - To be fair, pretty much all the Griffins now are incredibly despicable, nasty and downright horrible people whose charm has plain just warn off. In fact the only characters you can remotely even care about are the show's punching bag Meg, and Stewie. Who at the very least is suppose to be generally evil and nasty, yet comes off now as way more sympathetic (they still give him a lot of bitter terrible lines but it works more then the rest of the cast at least) and enjoyable then the rest of the family. Now that he's "retarded" Peter's allowed to pretty much do whatever he wants and everyone just puts up with his nonsense, Chris has somehow become even stupider then that and is just plain a failure and terrible at everything and whenever he supposedly shows more then that it's instantly taken away. Brian.... yeah let's not get into how they screwed over Brian here as this is about Lois. Who has pretty much become a b*swear*itch in literally every meaning of the word. Just being cold, callous, overly snarky and just plain bitter that even when she's supposedly doing something good and just, still comes off as awful. Probably not as much as Peter but honestly she really should know better being the brains of the relationship so in a way her actions are even less justifiable then his are. I think the worst of it is that at this point whenever she says she cares about her family and will do anything for them it just comes off as empty as hollow. Like it's saying "well I'm the mom so I'm suppose to say that but I don't really love my family and am just recycling the same generic sitcom lines that have been repeated so many times ad nauesum I can pretend they fit me too." The Simpsons isn't that great right now, but I still don't doubt that the main family loves one another and even though there have been a lot of bad Marge moments over the years she at least seems like a much more consistence and generally pleasant attitude. Honestly Francine from American Dad at this point isn't that much better but there is at least more of an effort made to show she is ditizy and wild to excuse her actions a bit more. At least more then Lois "will attack someone when they do the groceries because only I do them and will degrade someone else for being crazy" Griffin.

Miss Choksondiks (South Park) - I think this goes into more the "least noteworthy" catergory then least liked. Oh don't make any mistake: this is one of if not the most pointless characters in the entire show who never had ANY laughs associated with her over her like almost two year long stint in the series and honestly I'm glad had died off over 10 years ago. As her only real noteworthy features is looking weird and "gross" and making weird gross, just generally generic ugly related jokes, and I guess being the boy's first fourth grade teacher. Not like that mattered as there were only... like what three plots focused around that with her involved, and none of them were any good. Really her creation just seems like Matt and Trey wanted someone else to teach the boys then Mr. Garrison so came up with this bottom of the barrel design and name cause they wanted to see if they could get a certain phrase said on TV and... that's pretty much it. There is literally no point or purpose behind her otherwise. Since she wasn't "normal" enough to offer a differing view point on how a class was handled (unlike that substitute teacher from "Chef Goes Nanner") and wasn't insane enough to be entertaining. They never even did any humorous variations or bits related to her "quirks" unlike with Mr. Slave who at least also was always paired with the more interesting Mr. Garrison or actually made sympathetic in his relationship with Big Gay Al. Same can't be said for this character who wasn't appealing visually, audially and even plot wise and had way more funny jokes attached to her dead ("The Simpsons Already Did it") then alive. Seriously even Miss Garrision was funny then her... let that sink in for a second as I move on.

Diamond Tiara (My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic) - If you couldn't tell MLP:FIM was based on a series that came from the 80's, you need no further proof then this character. Not because it resembles some other pony from that era, but rather because this was a stock generic bully archtype from that time. That's transported to this one, but not given any updates to make her stand out. Even in cliche stuff like Fairy Oddparents or Danny Phantom that have bullies just for the sake of having bullies, they either go more off the wall with the character type, or at least acknowledge how one note it is. Heck stuff like Gravity Falls does that as well but then takes time to analyze and make you care about that character and make them more then that one note, and that did it in it's second season. We are now in season 5 of this show and there hasn't been ANY development for Diamond Tiara whatsoever in that time frame. Even the CMC it seems have evolved past their "let's spend all our time trying to find our cutie mark" gimmick and are now progressing down different thoughts or ideals. While DT just does the same thing: harass the CMC to make them feel bad and maybe occasionally get in trouble for it. It's gotten to the point where I actually want them to do an episode focused on Diamond Tiara if only as an excuse to get her to do something other then "let me walk in and insult you and laugh about it then walk out and make you feel bad hahahaha I have no life outside of making yours worse it seems." Really in a show with actually a lot of growth and development and continued evolution amongst everyone, why have characters who have popped up so many times gotten so little behind them? And you know this is especially bad after "One Bad Apple" that actually showed an arc for how someone would become a bully and why they would go so hardcore with it and actually change. Babs Seed in her 20 ish minutes (I know she's appeared and has been referenced after that but you know what I mean) has way more behind her then Diamond Tiara did in all the times she appeared so yeah... we ever going to work on actually doing something with DT? Beyond just the one note we've seen pounded over and over again.

Suga Mamma (The Proud Family) - I'm not admittedly a big fan of this series as I've said before. And this would be one of the biggest reasons: because I cannot stand the tired "step mother/mother gets to torment son over and over again without consequence" trope and this one goes above and beyond with how much Suga Mamma makes Oscar's life horrible. Just because... I guess he's suppose to be a bit of an egocentric jerk but honestly the universe seems to be punishing him enough for that already, so why should members of his family also have to do that? I think it's sad that stuff like Madea has actually found better ways of making the "old sassy black lady" trope funnier by actually not only making it weird by adding in crossdressing and switching the gender lines but also making them have so much sass and vitriol for everyone but still show they care. That wasn't the case with Suga Mamma. Not to mention the show constantly went overboard in showing her to be ridiculously overpowered. I still remember how in that Lilo and Stich crossover she took down the giant gun weilding alien bounty hunter with ease because... the writers of L&S never wanted us to take Gantu as a threat seriously ever again? That's my only reasoning for it. Really anything this character's done or said you can easily find other people doing but you know actually funny. Seriously if Fat Grandma was the one hassling Oscar Proud I'd see how that'd be an engaging character but yeah... not this character. Not at all.

Anna Watson (Spider-Man: The Animated Series) - Speaking of nags whose only purpose seems to be insulting or belittling other characters, Aunt Anna. Now to be fair this isn't so much a thing the show invented as that's something the comic series had as well but... I don't get why. Aren't there enough people who hate Peter Parker already in the Spider-Man world? We really need some old senile broad doing it as well just because of... insert reasons why everyone hates Spider-Man here. Others like J. Jonah Jameson at least have either a reason behind it, are entertaining when they go about it, or at least face punishment for their actions. What's the worst Auna Anna's had to deal with? Being talked down to Mary Jane or Aunt May and being around when bad stuff went down? Yeah not really much getback is it? It also makes me severely question why Aunt May is even friends with this woman. Maybe in the comics they had actual talks or conversations but every time she shows up here it's to lambast Peter or Spider-Man. And if she's not doing that then that's the sign it's not Aunt Anna which again is an awful sign of a character: "you aren't acting evil of like a total b(censored word)itch to me so that means you must be someone else." Yeah someone else I'd rather spent time with then her.

So that's my list. Enjoy.
 
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Katara (Avatar: The Last Airbender) - I know that there are so many people that just love her, but she's just annoying to me. She started the series as a know-it-all Mary Sue and just got worse as she got better at waterbending. I really don't see any real growth in her as a character for the entire series. The fact that just about every other major character underwent growth during the series, the fact that she doesn't just sticks out even more.
 

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I think a lot of the problem is that Seth's shows still play as a parody of the standard sitcom dynamic, which is bumbling dad vs competent house wife. While the female characters do have flaws, they ultimately still have to be played as the brighter moral compass of the two to fully play on the dynamic, thus they always get designated as the lesser of two evils. Sure they get lampshaded as being a hypocrite or a bit irritating at times for the odd gag, but the male character is always the one that ends up the butt monkey and learning from their mistake in the harshest of manner.

This is why I don't really take to Hayley. Even if they do make jabs at her, she doesn't get fazed by them because in the end the moral and comeuppance is almost always handed to Stan. Look at Bullocks To Stan or Less Money Mo Problems and Hayley is the one smugly on top par the odd insult while Stan and anyone else against her goes through the works. I could argue Lois gets the same jabs every once in a while but it doesn't change she usually squirms out of any genuine consequences. Francine isn't quite as bad, but if it affects Stan's role, then she'll be placed as the superior even when it's undeserved (she shouldn't have been enabled in cases like Surro Gate or The Kidney Stays In The Picture just because Stan topped her antics, hell in Daddy Queerest she just randomly changed her argument just so Stan could be wrong). She has the benefit of actually taking wild roles frequently though, compared to Hayley and Lois who are generally the most boring of their cast so don't even have the redeeming quality of being that entertaining.

Donna of The Cleveland Show is the only one that tends to avert this since her narcissism is constantly played as causing problems and the show plays itself so tongue in cheek that it barely even tries to jab at a parody moral.

I'm gonna have to go with the bandwagon and say I'm not big on Dulcy from Sonic Satam. Antoine was annoying comic relief, but he could strive to be funny and he did at least have pathos in his buffoonery. Dulcy was Ant without the 'loser' aspect, ie. the bit that made him sympathetic and proactive, and her slapstick was even more tired than his (and that catchphrase "Duuuuuhhh...comin' home, Ma" wasn't funny ONCE). She was an ineffective character, she had loads of abilities that shown she could be cool, but she stayed in the sidelines 99% of the time outside when they needed a flight vehicle (no one was really allowed to steal Sonic and Sally's dream team dynamic in Season Two, Sally was also a bit insufferable because of this thunder stealing, but she at least had some endearing personality). She had one spotlight episode and, while it made her presence as a dragon a bit less of an elephant in the room, it didn't hold any sort of meaningful introspective or growth on her character. She was just kinda boring and annoying to me. I'd have rather they just focused on Bunnie.

Sticks of Sonic Boom is starting to lean the same way, not quite, but starting. Very little of her conspiracy nut shtick is that funny and it's gotten old quick. Even Knuckles' stupider characterisation seems more whole than her. She also has that sorta screechy kid voice, another thing that put me off Dulcy.

I second Diamond Tiara. She's a card carrying bully without any of the over the top hilarity of it. Even if she had some sort of quirks or ambition outside just wanting to make the protagonist's lives hell, even equally negative ones, she would seem more full a character, but she just seems there as someone to hate in the most blatant and clunky manner possible. Gilda had the same problem, though they didn't use her in multiple episodes like there was some lasting appeal to her. While the show can be good at making charismatic villains, bully archetypes tend to be their downfall.
 
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Three Words - THE. BISKIT. TWINS. And I personally, as an honest fan of said show CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH that Littlest Pet Shop (2012) has enough issues with finding an audience outside of its target demographic and/or staying relevant in the public eye, due to its overall lack of popularity. It doesn't need such stupid, bland, and annoying rich butt / mean girl characters dragging it down. It doesn't help that while they suffer comeuppance of any kind, it's never enough. Easily the best episodes in this series don't involve them being in a conflict of any kind - or they suffer severely, in order to make things work.

Don't get me started on how much better MLP:FiM would be for characters like the CMCs if Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon did not exist at all (and instead, actual villains worth being weary of were in their place, instead, just to make that show more interesting than it is now...) - that's exactly how I feel about these idiots. They are a disgrace to female characters and the gender opposite to mine in general (I'm male, BTW.), and a major drag on a show that I actually immensely enjoy watching, despite its problems...

There's more that I can think of - but none of them are in current shows I actually like (save for that pony show or that pet shop show, which are unfortunate victims of this trash!), but this is on the top of my mind, unfortunately - however, I'm glad to see this thread is taking off so smoothly...
 

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originally posted by JesseCuster
Katara (Avatar: The Last Airbender) - I know that there are so many people that just love her, but she's just annoying to me. She started the series as a know-it-all Mary Sue and just got worse as she got better at waterbending. I really don't see any real growth in her as a character for the entire series. The fact that just about every other major character underwent growth during the series, the fact that she doesn't just sticks out even more.

I can see disliking Katara for feeling she's a know it all, or that she didn't get nearly as called out for her actions as most of the rest of the cast did, but I would disagree that she didn't undergo any major character growth. Because honestly she did. At the start of the show, perhaps even moreso then Aang she was the idealistic, incredibly optimistic character who always tried looking on the brighter side of things and being hopeful and caring. You know as a contrast to Sokka being more of a bitter disbelieving skeptic. But honestly as the series went on I think the two kind of switched because while Sokka became more hopeful and trusting and understanding, Katara actually became more bitter, more angry and less trusting in people. This is especially shown in the last half of the third season with how she treated Zuko and then focused on in "The Southern Raiders" where she spends half the episode going on a quest to off the man who murdered her mother. Would you ever believe the Katara at the start of the series would of done that? I wouldn't of, but I could see it by that point in the series. I do know that a lot of people felt these changes to her character still didn't make her endearing or interesting as I think a lot of people still like her the least of the main characters but there was still development there.


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This is why I don't really take to Hayley. Even if they do make jabs at her, she doesn't get fazed by them because in the end the moral and comeuppance is almost always handed to Stan.

Eh I don't know about that. Where was that comeuppance in "Failure is A Factory Installed Option" where she was forced to become a maid and prositsutie to make money when Stan was on his so called "quest" to get back at the car dealership and it ended with him being happy at getting a deal while his family was horrified? Or when she was attacked by a shark in "Hurricane" and other such instances? I think the show is perfectly fine with her getting knocked around, whether or not she deserves it. Also though as you said there is still the sitcom formula of Stan usually needing to learn the lesson at least by this point in the series they switch it up and have it fall on other characters and have Hayley interact with others and having to learn things as well and what not. Honestly I'm more forgiving of Hayley as compared to a lot of other MacFarlane characters she doesn't have as much terrible bile bitterness that makes it as hard to watch but I can't act like I don't get why people would dislike her. And honestly the teenage female characters in FG, AD and CS are all if not the worst characters the weakest, though mostly due to the writers's inability to do a lot of interesting things with them.


I'm gonna have to go with the bandwagon and say I'm not big on Dulcy from Sonic Satam.

Honestly it's been ages since I've watched that show as I'm way more familiar with the comics. And actually, this is probably true of everyone from Sonic SatAM, read the stuff with her from the Archie run and you'll likely enjoy her more. All the characters there have way more moments and backstory to make them much more appealing to watch.


She also has that sorta screechy kid voice, another thing that put me off Dulcy.

Yeah that's a good point on the voices. I try not to keep that in mind as I want to focus on the problems with the character in how they come across but I can't recommend even listening to most of my choices. And I love say Grey Delisle, but they picked a terrible voice for Tootie. Honestly when it comes to VAing... just in general a lot of Cree Summer roles I'm not a fan of as it seems she screeches and squeaks a lot of her characters and that gets old fast. I think Nikka Futterman (Sticks VA) is a lot better and it seems like at the very least they're only having her sound really annoying (like singing in that robot golem episode) as part of the joke. Honestly I'm no big fan of Sticks but I don't hate her. And honestly when it comes to additional Sonic characters in the TV show... outside of the Freedom fighters in Sonic SatAM she's probably the best. Above Sonia and Manic from Underground and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy above Chris from Sonic X. Man we need a "worst child characters from cartoons/anime" thread around here cause I have a rant for that snot nosed.... uh anyway moving on.


em more full a character, but she just seems there as someone to hate in the most blatant and clunky manner possible. Gilda had the same problem, though they didn't use her in multiple episodes like there was some lasting appeal to her.

Actually I'd argue Gilda is actually a much better character. First off at least we know she was friends with Rainbow Dash and did generally like her which at least gives her more justification for appearing then just being a kid in school. Second off I at least got why Gilda was such a jerk: likely Griffins live an entirely different more wild and more cruel way of going about things then ponies do and thus have much harsher judgements. Plus at least she gets told off for being a jerk and we don't see her again. When's someone going to tell of DT so she'll either stop or go away?
 

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I'd easily say Chloe from Miraculous Ladybug. She is totally unlikeable bully/jerkette that I can't stand her. She didn't go through an actual development for 26-22 minute episodes (I know that's not really enough, but still). She doesn't accept help from anyone who tries to help her, she always bullies everyone and also, she causes more than half of the troubles in Paris. I sincerely hope the writers succeed to win me over her in season 2 or 3, but till then she'll be still an unlikeable bully for me.
 

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Eh I don't know about that. Where was that comeuppance in "Failure is A Factory Installed Option" where she was forced to become a maid and prositsutie to make money when Stan was on his so called "quest" to get back at the car dealership and it ended with him being happy at getting a deal while his family was horrified? Or when she was attacked by a shark in "Hurricane" and other such instances? I think the show is perfectly fine with her getting knocked around, whether or not she deserves it. Also though as you said there is still the sitcom formula of Stan usually needing to learn the lesson at least by this point in the series they switch it up and have it fall on other characters and have Hayley interact with others and having to learn things as well and what not. Honestly I'm more forgiving of Hayley as compared to a lot of other MacFarlane characters she doesn't have as much terrible bile bitterness that makes it as hard to watch but I can't act like I don't get why people would dislike her. And honestly the teenage female characters in FG, AD and CS are all if not the worst characters the weakest, though mostly due to the writers's inability to do a lot of interesting things with them.

The thing is, most of those things tend to be less her getting a comeuppance and more unfairly horrid things happening to her. It's indiscriminate mean spiritedness but in Hayley's case we're still meant to take her side. Cases she is abused and it's treated as her own fault are pretty rare, especially if she's against Stan.

Honestly it's been ages since I've watched that show as I'm way more familiar with the comics. And actually, this is probably true of everyone from Sonic SatAM, read the stuff with her from the Archie run and you'll likely enjoy her more. All the characters there have way more moments and backstory to make them much more appealing to watch.

I've read several of the comics and while they downplay some of the annoying qualities of the show's cast, it also tends to make them incredibly bland. Sure they have more developed backstories and roles, but their actual personalities are now just so vanilla. I'm not sure which is worse.

Honestly I'm no big fan of Sticks but I don't hate her. And honestly when it comes to additional Sonic characters in the TV show... outside of the Freedom fighters in Sonic SatAM she's probably the best. Above Sonia and Manic from Underground and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy above Chris from Sonic X. Man we need a "worst child characters from cartoons/anime" thread around here cause I have a rant for that snot nosed.... uh anyway moving on.

Having seen some of the later episodes of Boom, they did at least tone down Sticks a little and give her more character, even if she does tire quickly still with her conspiracy crap. I didn't mind Sonia and Manic too much. They were a ridiculous concept (the whole show was really) but their characters were decent (Sonia was pretty much Satam Sally but allowed to occasionally take the fallible role instead of always being right). Chris was bland and definitely overused, but with that said, I don't really find myself loathing him with a passion compared to so many other fans of the series. He's just 'bleh' to me.
 

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I'd easily say Chloe from Miraculous Ladybug. She is totally unlikeable bully/jerkette that I can't stand her. She didn't go through an actual development for 26-22 minute episodes (I know that's not really enough, but still). She doesn't accept help from anyone who tries to help her, she always bullies everyone and also, she causes more than half of the troubles in Paris. I sincerely hope the writers succeed to win me over her in season 2 or 3, but till then she'll be still an unlikeable bully for me.

Just one more reason I never cared for that noise of a show like I do Harvey Beaks or The Loud House. Heck, I care more about Sanjay and Craig (which I'm none too big on...) than I do this particular show.
 

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Although I do like her better than her previous "sex symbol" incarnation, the Looney Tunes Show version of Lola Bunny, along with pretty much every incarnation of Amy Rose from the Sonic franchise top the list for me. Both of these characters represent the "obsessed girlfriend" stereotype and display stalker-ish tendencies.

My philosophy of gender/racial/sexual identity equality in creative works is that the character should not be defined by that identity and they should be able to still be the same character if that identity was changed. To that extent, being an underrepresented identity is a benefit if it does offer a certain perspective that others don't bring. What I don't like, however, is the identity consuming the character to the point that they become stereotypes or uphold double standards. Both Lola and Amy uphold the "Token Chick"/"Smurfette" role in their respective shows (despite both shows also having more rough-and-tumble females in the main casts of their most recent works in Tina and Sticks respectively), but both also fall into the archetypical "Stalker with a Crush" role. To me, the double standard that this is lighthearted and funny coming from a female but creepy and dark coming from a male makes no sense. Stalking and psychological abuse are no joke to me, no matter who's doing it, and shouldn't be treated as such in family-aimed works.
 
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Brittany from Star Vs., the problem is not her being a jerk (I love many female jerks in cartoons honestly), but that she's so basic and boring, and a pain to watch for me.
Same with most of the "popular and rich" girls from As Told By Ginger other than Courtney Gripling (who I love), Miranda and Mipsy, mostly. Not entertaining at all, and, other than some memorable quotes from Miranda, forgettable.
To be fair, the popular jerk is a pretty annoying character archetipe unless you give more depht to them or just make her funnier to watch (I really like Tammy from Bob's Burgers for example, because I find her to be hilarious, unlike these characters)
 

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Jimmy Neutron was a series with great characters but Cindy Vortex was the only character I didn't really care for. Her rivalry and crush on Jimmy was uninteresting and sometimes a little annoying (mostly the latter). How does Jimmy like her back?
 

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I say Dijoney is much worse than Sugar Momma sure Sugar Momma is abusive but at least shes somewhat cares about Oscar, Dijoney would stab Penny in the back if it ment she could sniff Stickies underwear for 5 minutes.
 

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I say Dijoney is much worse than Sugar Momma sure Sugar Momma is abusive but at least shes somewhat cares about Oscar, Dijoney would stab Penny in the back if it ment she could sniff Stickies underwear for 5 minutes.

The Proud Family is pretty much As Told By Ginger, if said show sucked royally - it's no surprise most characters in this particular show are worse than those in ATBG, by legit comparison. It makes sense that Dijoney is a worse best friend character to Penny, than Dodie is to Ginger, for example, knowing how much better ATBG is than The Proud Family. UGH.
 

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