Eastern Europe and the Netherlands mainly.I have no idea for the USA. But Fox Kids was very popular in Europe. We had original shows that didn't air very much in the US. It's likely that Fox Kids would have been more successful than Disney if it had continued.
Especially shows such as "The Kids From Room 402", "What's with Andy" and "Wunschpusch" are very valuable. These shows are today co-produced by CineGroupe.
Eastern Europe and the Netherlands mainly.
Here in IT it was just one of the many satellite channels.
It had some visibility for some time as a simulcast in syndication on some local TV channels up here, but then in 2003 that syndication block became K2 which then evolved in its own channel.
Many people have good memories for K2 mainly for Fairly odd parents lol
But I guess had it continued it would've become a victim of the Fox-Disney mergers anyway.
In a way I was also glad it became Jetix, as it made more sense as a name in territories when there was no Fox.
Although programming wise not a patch with many Disney, Cartoon Network and even Nickelodeon shows, but at least it had some animes and a focus on action shows
In a way or the other, Disney knew how to better run a kids' channel.
Not in the best possible ways, especially post-2006, but yeah
Nobody understood. But the acquisition of Fox Kids by Disney is a cultural massacre.At beginning, Fox Kids in the US was very popular until more competition came, especially Pokémon on Kids’ WB that led to demise of Fox Kids in 2002. If it wasn’t for Power Rangers, it would dies in mid to late 1990s, at least for the US.
That all I remember.
and of course, I was big fan of Power Rangers when they first aired on TV in 1993 but real annoying is school bus come at middle of Power Rangers, so I asked my mom to record with VHS.
I feel upset for Americans. Other than Batman : TAS, the emptiest Fox Kids and Jetix programming was in America. The shows you watched on Fox Family or UPN were part of our core programming. CineGroupe series such as The Kids From Room 402, Wunschpunsch, Princess Sissi, What's with Andy, Bad Dog and SABAN-FK EMEA shows such as Diabolik, Sweet Halley High, Princess Tenko, Walter Melon, The Adventures of Oliver Twist received very little airplay in America.Eastern Europe and Scandinavia is a market where 500-600 million people live. I don't think Disney has achieved the same success. You know my views on this matter.
It would have been different if Fox Kids had been sold to Disney in 2019. I think it is one of Disney's biggest competitors, along with CN and Nick. Moreover, Fox Kids existed before these 3 channels in many countries. Perhaps if it had not been sold in 2001 much better series could have been produced.
More importantly, if this were the case, Disney+ would also add Fox Kids shows when it launches. We're not getting any other shows right now other than Marvel and The Tick. These are not available in every country. There is no Disney+ in Russia anyway. Disney+ only cares about the American market.
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I tried adding your name to the quote. But it didn't happen. I sent a message this shape anyway. Condemnation? I'm sorry to say this, but you're being touchy right now.I answered the question about whether Fox Kids was popular in the US and didn’t expect to see turn my post into condemnation against me, also you act like you know more than me.
I don’t appreciate to see you cut my name out of my quote. If you want to quote so you must include my name.
This thread is all about discussion, not debate and I’m not interested to debate on this matter.
It is fact that competition killed Fox Kids in the US that led Fox sold Fox Kids to Disney, also Fox exhausted all options to improve Fox Kids and Fox Family. Shareholders have a lot of influences too.
There is no integrity check in place to ensure the Disney takes a good use of assets owned by Fox Family Worldwide, so it means Disney can destroy if they wanted.
There is remind - this thread is all about Fox Kids and what happen if they continue to operate after 2002.
Ok, I can understand now.I tried adding your name to the quote. But it didn't happen. I sent a message this shape anyway.
Some of your phrases sound like disagreement to my posts and made me puzzled. I’m tried to understand about what are you saying.Condemnation? I'm sorry to say this, but you're being touchy right now.
I guess that Fox Kids is cheap with dubbing since they gave very low budget.I have heard that Transformers: Robots in Disguise was dubbed only in Italian, Latin American Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and Croatian. Why was that? Was this because of Fox Kids' demise, restructuring or something like that?
I feel upset for Americans. Other than Batman : TAS, the emptiest Fox Kids and Jetix programming was in America. The shows you watched on Fox Family or UPN were part of our core programming. CineGroupe series such as The Kids From Room 402, Wunschpunsch, Princess Sissi, What's with Andy, Bad Dog and SABAN-FK EMEA shows such as Diabolik, Sweet Halley High, Princess Tenko, Walter Melon, The Adventures of Oliver Twist received very little airplay in America.
Some shows may have never even aired. (Such as Diabolik and/or A.T.O.M. Season 2)
The root of the whole problem was that Fox Kids was not a full-fledged channel. That's why your programming blocks have never seen more than Power Rangers and Digimon.
That's why the channel was not watched, the variety of shows never increased.
So it wasn't considered a profitable investment and they had to sell it to Disney.
Although some of these works (Diabolik, W.I.T.C.H., A.T.O.M., etc.) belong to Disney today, the fact that they are not on Disney+. This situtation shows that Disney is still the number one supporter of this cultural massacre.
* Hanna-Barbera, Fred Quimby, Tex Avery, school --->>> survived with Genndy Tartakovsky and Craig McCracken and continued with names like J.G. Quintel
* The Walt Disney school has changed very little until today.
* After successful shows like "Ben 10 Classic" and "UAF", Man of Action turned to Omnish*tverse and Marvel animations. In this way he founded his own school. After Ultimate Alien he ***** everywhere. (OVS, B10Reboot, Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Assemble, Hulk and the Agents of the SMASH!)
As a former Marvel writer, I wish he would at least be inspired by masters like Avi Arad and Rick Ungar. But he totally f*cked it up.
* You know Nickelodeon, they have an even worse school of art style than Cartoon Network.
* But unfortunately, the Franco-Japanese Saban-Fox Kids art style school that started from DFE Enterprises has disappeared.
Most of Fox Kids shows would end up on Hulu by now if it wasn't sold to Disney in 2001 and 2019, and 20th Century continue to be owned by Fox.Maybe that's the problem. Even though Fox Kids was a US brand, many shows were not available there. Some shows were broadcast for a very short time. That's why they weren't too keen on adding these shows to Disney+.
It probably would have been. Disney destroyed its entire legacy by purchasing one of its biggest competitors. Even the remaining Marvel series from Fox Kids are presented with terrible image quality on Disney +. If it were in Fox's hands, we could even watch Spider-Man TAS in its remastered form. However, in Max, DC series are presented in remastered form.Most of Fox Kids shows would end up on Hulu by now if it wasn't sold to Disney in 2001 and 2019, and 20th Century continue to be owned by Fox.
If Fox Kids existed after 2002, it could have Fox Kids Hub in Hulu and of course, Power Rangers would be there too.
Yes, corporate greed at finest. Also, Disney is extremely unfriendly to physical media releases (DVD/Blu-ray).It probably would have been. Disney destroyed its entire legacy by purchasing one of its biggest competitors.
I agree with you, I can tell that their picture quality is terrible - looks very raw SD quality and completely unremastered. It make feel like I'm watching show on VHS.Even the remaining Marvel series from Fox Kids are presented with terrible image quality on Disney +.
Yeah, WB did excellent job with remaster old shows that cannot be said same for old Disney and Fox Kids/Jetix shows. Fox is good too, after saw remastered X-Files and The Simpsons, despite cropped into 16:9 screen.If it were in Fox's hands, we could even watch Spider-Man TAS in its remastered form. However, in Max, DC series are presented in remastered form.
yeah, if only news corporation cared about the family animation side of fox (fox kids, fox animation studios, blue sky studios)If Fox Kids had continued beyond 2002 and if Disney hadn't purchased Fox Entertainment, there might have been a Fox streaming service with Fox Kids as one of it's windows, or at the very least, some shows from the Fox Kids library might be streaming on Hulu.