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  1. R Lopez

    What is CN's most forgettable acquisition?

    The only explanation for SlamBall is, CN really tried to make sports programming happen for a few years. Remember the Hall of Game awards show?
  2. R Lopez

    What is CN's most forgettable acquisition?

    One word: SlamBall. Do yourself a favor and let this promo wash over you.
  3. R Lopez

    Toonzone's Cartoon Network 30th Anniversary Celebration Thread: 2007-2011

    These posts are really cool though. I can tell they take a lot of time to make.
  4. R Lopez

    Toonzone's Cartoon Network 30th Anniversary Celebration Thread: 2007-2011

    It's a little wild seeing these five years lumped together. The Chowder era, the CN Real era, and the start of the Adventure Time era. There's a tendency online to only credit/blame the network's presidents. I want to point out that the people just below Snyder (Rob Sorcher; the leadership team...
  5. R Lopez

    Does anyone know The Scooby-Doo Project from 1999?

    This edited version seems to be the same one that made it onto an in-house DVD that compiled the works of the network's on-air (promo) department. So, maybe this is the version was easiest for them to upload? It'd be interesting to know how many old promos/interstitials CN has archived and...
  6. R Lopez

    Shows That Aired On Both Cartoon Network And Adult Swim?

    If you're gonna include those, then you gotta include Sealab 2021 and Harvey Birdman. Those also had unannounced previews on CN. Yeah, Bob's Burgers has been quietly blurring the lines between CN and AS on Sundays lately.
  7. R Lopez

    Shows That Aired On Both Cartoon Network And Adult Swim?

    Anyone remember Captain Sturdy? He got a pilot short as part of the Cartoon Cartoon program, and then a second pilot premiered on Adult Swim. I can't think of too many other potential series that got pilots on both CN and AS. (I know Adult Swim's Neon Knome became Cartoon Network's Problem Solverz.)
  8. R Lopez

    Shows That Aired On Both Cartoon Network And Adult Swim?

    Just because no-one has mentioned these yet: Cartoon Planet The Bob Clampett Show Rocky & Bullwinkle (apparently... I'd like to see more proof of this) Mr. T Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos The Super Globetrotters The Gary Coleman Show Notice that these were all "filler" programs when Adult...
  9. R Lopez

    CN's Least Regarded Shows

    The 20th anniversary is now the last anniversary that CN made a point of including obscure/less successful characters. We can credit the OK KO crew for taking it upon themselves to have so much detail in their crossover episode.
  10. R Lopez

    Maxwell Atoms is writing a Billy & Mandy movie.

    But those were reruns---that wasn't WB producing something new for Nick to air. Honestly though, if Cartoon Network isn't interested in brining back Billy & Mandy, why would any other channel be?
  11. R Lopez

    Maxwell Atoms is writing a Billy & Mandy movie.

    It seems to me that getting new Billy & Mandy material made just isn't a priority for WB-D, and hasn't been for many years now.
  12. R Lopez

    CN's Least Regarded Shows

    Which networks choose to bring attention to old flops? No, not every show on the OP's list was a flop (What a Cartoon! certainly wasn't) or uninteresting... But the network would rather focus on Craig of the Creek or We Baby Bears, or maybe old cash cows like Powerpuff Girls and Adventure Time...
  13. R Lopez

    Top 20 Highest Viewed Cartoon Network Telecasts

    A few months ago, I did a post on here about how live-action has always done well on Cartoon Network. I mean, not the infamous reality show block... but the reason the network tried that was that live-action movies were doing really well for them.
  14. R Lopez

    Top 20 Highest Viewed Cartoon Network Telecasts

    I'm not sure what that person means. They might be referring to the fact that networks don't just use traditional ratings to determine how many people are watching a show; they might also factor in streaming numbers and social media engagement.
  15. R Lopez

    Cartoon Network's (Upcoming) 30th Anniversary

    I genuinely think we should be grateful that CN does anything for their anniversary. How many other cable networks bother with that? Nickelodeon and MTV used to, but not anymore. We really can't be surprised that the network doesn't focus on shows that failed to attract a large audience the...
  16. R Lopez

    Cartoon Network's (Upcoming) 30th Anniversary

    I don't think Johnny Bravo will ever be officially "cancelled." But I think we all know that's not a show CN would make today. Of course, they wouldn't make Samurai Jack today, either, given that they handed the series to Adult Swim. A lot of things have changed with kids media since the late...
  17. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    The HBO Max purge is still fresh on a lot of people's minds.
  18. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    Well, Cartoon Network FINALLY said something regarding all this on their Twitter. I'm just gonna repeat myself: WB-D should've explained things better in that memo that got this snowball rolling. Also, I think we learned this week that a lot of people don't get that Cartoon Network Studios and...
  19. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    That tweet from the employee has inspired me to quote myself: ...if you are currently working on a series that will be released with the CNS logo on it, then couldn't you reasonably say that CNS is alive and well? I certainly don't expect the CNS building in Burbank to suddenly be emptied. I...
  20. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    Is this a bad time to bring up Boomerang? Actually, I don't know what to make of the Boomerang brand. It's kinda remarkable that both the streaming service and the on-air channel still exist. My theory about them, is that they cost virtually nothing to program, and just enough people subscribe...
  21. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    You know who could provide us with some clarity? WB-D. But even then, if you are currently working on a series that will be released with the CNS logo on it, then couldn't you reasonably say that CNS is alive and well? I certainly don't expect the CNS building in Burbank to suddenly be emptied...
  22. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    I’ve been thinking about how this particular controversy began. It might’ve been avoided if WB-D had put out a more extensive announcement in which they explained what exactly is going on. (This is assuming, of course, that they actually do know what’s going on.) Maybe they could've updated us...
  23. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    Every time one of those was announced, I thought "Is there really that much demand for Craig stuff?" I guess my thing is, maybe it's a hit for current-day CN standards... but that's not saying much. That's not a cartoon that "everyone" knows. CN hasn't had an unqualified hit in years (even TTG...
  24. R Lopez

    WB Animation and Cartoon Network Studios merge; will remain as seperate labels

    Well, maybe Craig isn't actually that big a hit?
  25. R Lopez

    Top 20 Highest Viewed Cartoon Network Telecasts

    Hey, this is a really cool list. Great job! So, the highest-rated program in Cartoon Network's history was a live-action movie, huh? Actually, that whole mini-era of Cartoon Network Original Movies seems to have been a success. It's a shame that momentum was squandered. Also, it's a little...
  26. R Lopez

    Did you consider the 2004 rebrand the downfall of CN?

    Yeah, the timing of Adult Swim taking off in 2003 (when Family Guy became the highest-rated show on the network) coinciding with CN wanting to be a more like Nick and Disney Channel resulted in the pivot of 2004. For me, CN lost its edge at that time. (That edge has occasionally returned in the...
  27. R Lopez

    Tom Ascheim or Michael Ouweleen?

    How about neither? Cartoon Network has not been calling its own shots since the launch of HBO Max. So, I'm not even totally sure what it means to be a CN executive anymore.
  28. R Lopez

    Is WarnerDiscovery going to kill Cartoon Network?

    You say that like it's never happened before. When Turner Broadcasting bought Hanna-Barbera in order to create Cartoon Network, the HB name didn't disappear overnight, but it was dead by the end of that decade. I mean, they still use it whenever WB puts out another Scooby-Doo thing, but HB...
  29. R Lopez

    More Than Just Cartoons

    And there was Space Ghost Coast to Coast, of course. I don't see anybody here saying that CN is leaving animation behind. What I see is a lot of people wondering what the new folks from Discovery are going to expect from the network. They just said "no" to an expensive show JJ Abrams was...
  30. R Lopez

    CN is bringing back live-action programming.

    This compelled me to re-read that article with the Amy Friedman quotes. I'm still not used to how WarnerMedia executives always talk about Cartoon Network and the kids-programming on HBO Max at the same time.
  31. R Lopez

    CN is bringing back live-action programming.

    Sure... but there have certainly been times when CN felt very comfortable spending lots of money on decent original animated series at once. I just get the feeling that every few years, the network goes through an identity crisis where they're not even sure that they want to be an animation...
  32. R Lopez

    CN is bringing back live-action programming.

    We can nitpick that quote about girls all day, but I don't think there's any reason to. Honestly, you can drive yourself crazy trying to make sense out of everything that a network executive says. That's another example of the type of thing that one shouldn't always believe when its coming from...
  33. R Lopez

    CN is bringing back live-action programming.

    I just read the article that the tweet links to. Friedman basically says that Cartoon Network, in its current state, only appeals to one demographic (young boys) and that its time the network started grabbing other people’s attention. (She credits Cartoonito for finally bringing pre-schoolers...
  34. R Lopez

    More Than Just Cartoons

    I figured you think it's a real option. I mostly said what I said for those who think it would never happen. It would be a pretty drastic decision to change Cartoon Network's name. What would they change it to? The Warner Kids Network? HBO Max Jr.? Actually, I should probably stop giving them...
  35. R Lopez

    More Than Just Cartoons

    I voted B. Which reminds me... I know that CN Real was a mistake, but because it was a block, it kept all those reality shows from suddenly taking over the schedule. One of the reasons why some of those shows are so rare now, is because they didn't actually all that much. So, people who say...
  36. R Lopez

    Why do you think Cartoon Network has always trailed behind Nickelodeon and Disney Channel in the viewership ratings?

    I'm aware of the Bob's Burger experiment that's been quietly happening on Sunday nights. But until CN actually claims it, it's just a test.
  37. R Lopez

    Why do you think Cartoon Network has always trailed behind Nickelodeon and Disney Channel in the viewership ratings?

    You said everything I left out of my post. You're absolutely right that shows like "ToonHeads" also resulted in CN being unique amongst the kid networks. Toonami deserves a shoutout here too. And yeah, Adult Swim was the network finally, after many years of putting it off, formally attracting...
  38. R Lopez

    Why do you think Cartoon Network has always trailed behind Nickelodeon and Disney Channel in the viewership ratings?

    This is a really good point. And, as others have already suggested, it's the context for the live-action phase of the late 2000s. That era also featured a big push in the made-for-TV movie department, but that's always been Disney Channel's domain. It's already been established in this thread...
  39. R Lopez

    Complete failures that happened during Cartoon Network's 30-year history

    I guess they thought it'd be a good home for "Out of Jimmy's Head," the first new show to premiere on there. What a strange moment in the network's history.
  40. R Lopez

    Complete failures that happened during Cartoon Network's 30-year history

    Michael Ouweleen, the new president of CN, was one of the key figures in the late 2000's live-action era, and one of the people who put Fried Dynamite together. I wonder if something like that might happen again now.

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